SEO

The SEO That Works fiasco

56 Comments 12 October 2011

it as my first dayBay Point Trading aka SEO that Works are what we in the SEO industry would like to call aggressive marketers who follow the same technique used by the mobile phone companies that try to sell you a cell phone contract. I had the opportunity to interact with one of their cold callers and when he couldn’t answer the simple questions directly related to the SEO service & domain name registration he was offering he put me through to his sales manager. I later learned that this was his first day doing sales calls and only spent 3 days on training prior. This is my experience with Bay Point Trading.

Inbound Marketing, particularly Search Engine Optimization, is something that I am extremely passionate about. I’ve dedicated nearly a decade of my life to playing around with, testing and implementing various SEO techniques trying to find the holy grail, SEO That Works. To that extent I wanted to gauge the impact Google Places has on certain keywords I watch like a hawk. My phone number is therefore one of the three or more positions on the Google map you see when searching for certain location specific phrases people search for daily in Cape Town. My phone now rings about once per day and 99% of the time lasts 1 minute where I can actually help the caller with credible information to the query they have. Not today though, Bay Point Trading called.

The salesperson rushed through how important it is to rank at the top of Google and how registering a certain domain name with keywords they already found me on Google for will get me to the top of Google. Being a Web AddiCT I know how these things work and wondered if the person from Bay Point Trading could explain it to me. Are they going to redirect traffic from the new domain name to my site? Will it be 301, 302 or are they going to build a landing page targeting the same keyword as the domain name? An SEO professional can answer these questions in their sleep. This was the salespersons first day, he didn’t have all the answers. I hope he doesn’t get into trouble. The cold caller handed me over to his sales manager. I didn’t get his name. Asked the same question and this is what he asked me…

Bay Point Trading Sales Manager: “Are you in front of your computer?”
Me: “Always”

Go to Google South Africa and type seo that works

Already I was thinking… How many people actually search for that keyword? Checked and found that 4400 people do monthly. OK so they have the exact match domain name seothatworks DOT co with a all the on page SEO checkboxes ticked. The keyword they found my number on Google for only gets less than half the searches the ‘seo that works’ exact phrase gets. Cold calling and other marketing methods have proved successful for them as they have more than 8000 customers.

So I asked him to go to Google and spelled my name… R-A-F-I-Q… click search.

To cut a long story short the sales manager didn’t want to speak to me anymore, mumbled something and hung up the phone without even saying goodbye. Was it his first day too?

This is not SEO and is only one tactic that could prove successful in the short term. If you’d like an idea of how a most SEO companies could and should interact with you try this test. I wish Bay Point Trading well with their marketing and sales initiatives.

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Founder of Web AddiCT(s); who tinkers with SEO while dreaming inside a technicolour conversational prism. Follow @rafiq on twitter or join other Web AddiCT(s); on Facebook.

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  • http://twitter.com/Dicebat Dicebat

    Funny thing is I hardly read SEOMoz, it’s just the first of millions of articles that pop up when you search “Keyword rich domains” or something in that effect. I find SEO forums such as webmasterworld.com a lot more informative and correct.

    I always advise to take any SEO article written by a single individual with a pinch of salt as their facts are often saturated with their own opinions. This is why forums rule.
    Anyway, I agree that existing domains with content on it are far more superior in the SERPs compared to newly registered domains with fresh and strong keyword rich content.

    Anyone with SEO knowledge knows that.

    My final point actually with all of this is that we’re not the only SEOs in South Africa. 5 years ago, there were a few. Today there are thousands and tomorrow there will be even more. It’s not a highly specialised service. SEOs don’t need masters degress in online marketing (though it helps) to become a blackbelt in SEO. In general SEO’s seem to have very large egos and we tend to think we are the only one in the field that can do a good job. – We need to get off our high horses and realise that there’s lots of competition, locally and internationally. Let’s rather use our time and energy on better results, rather than attacking any new competition that emerges in the market place with their own unique angle.

  • http://www.webaddict.co.za Rafiq Phillips

    the domain pitched to me was available too, didn’t register it though. Got a .co.za instead.

  • http://www.godsboy.org Dewaldt Huysamen
  • http://www.midrand.oink.co.za/ Oinkit

    The company exists and they have clients who are happy. I have a client who asked me about the purchasing of a .CO. I wouldn’t say they are scammers, but I would say they’re pulling the wool a little low over the eyes. Google Panda and Google Fresh taught them anything? I would think not. URL There are so many views on how search engines respond to the stuff we publish to the web. Only one thing can be sure. Where there is quality content which is authoratative, quality and relative in/outbound links as well as location, product and service you’re starting to talk SEO. And yeah .. who checks page 3 on Google? can’t recall that I ever have. Lol!

  • HA

    Hi  I am new here. I am currently in a fight with Bay Point Trading. I was one of the fools who paid lots of money for a .co domain name. They promised me all of the above … I paid… and wham..nothing happened: wrong domain name, no landing page (“..they cannot help it of Google takes so long to rank it”). I went to the .co registry page… not the wrong or the right domain is registered in my name (“.. to protect our customers privacy”) AND to top it all – I received yet another call last week from one of their marketting people to BUY THE SAME DOMAIN THAT I HAVE BOUGHT ALREADY!!! wHAT CAN i DO????

  • Neil Pursey

    Hilarious! Great post Rafiq! Hopefully these guys have learnt a valuable lesson. Maybe try and get this post to number one for “Bay Point Trading”.. lol




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